Public Congress

Why did they block allowing people to buy their own insurance policies that can be taken with them from job to job or even while unemployed?

Did Democrats intentionally sabotage the private insurance industry to justify a radical government takeover of healthcare?

Bill: S CON RES 70
Vote description: DeMint Amdt. No. 4339; To provide for a deficit-neutral reserve fund for providing an above the line Federal income tax deduction for individuals purchasing health insurance outside the workplace.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/2/votes/82/

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/votes/page2/

Why did OBAMA & DEMOCRATS obstruct GOP effort to foster more competition of healthcare insurance across state lines?

Bill: H R 976
Vote description: DeMint Amdt. No. 2577; To amend the Public Health Service Act to provide for cooperative governing of individual health insurance coverage offered in interstate commerce.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/1/votes/305/

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/votes/page4/

Do they really want to fix healthcare in America?

http://www.cdobs.com/archive/featured/a-first-wolf-blitzer-ask-david-axelrod-some-tough-questions,64456

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/10/video-axelrod-not-comprehending-what-competition-means/

Because they want to make health care something that you have to go to the government to beg for.
If you donate enough to the DNC, you get treatment.
If you don’t, sorry, you are a health risk.
It’s not about saving money or lives, it’s about politics.
They are trying to build a system in which everyone is dependent on the government. If they refuse, they die.

Jake and Ken start discussing health care – the Republican and Democratic plans. Jake’s health care platform is here http://towneforcongress.com/economy/health-care-platform-announcement

Ken’s show “The Voice of Liberty” is on the schedule at www.revolutionbroadcasting.com/

Jake is a Liberty candidate for U.S. House in Pennsylvania in 2010. To learn more about Jake, please visit TowneForCongress.com

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Chuck Norris: Public health care would have killed Baby Jesus
By Daniel Tencer
Thursday, December 17th, 2009

http://rawstory.com/2009/12/norris-obamacare-killed-jesus/

Excerpts:

In a column published at the conservative Human Events blog earlier this week, Norris suggested that if a government-run health care plan had existed in Bethlehem at the time of Jesus’ birth, the shame of Mary’s "out-of-wedlock" pregnancy would have pushed her into aborting her child.

Norris may be surprised to discover that modern-day Israel has a universal, government-run health care system that is far more "socialist" than anything being debated in Congress at present.

The reality that Jesus’ homeland subscribes to public health care is an uncomfortable one for some opponents of health care reform. Last summer, at a heated Town Hall meeting, one opponent of reform was so upset at an Israeli Jewish man who defended his country’s socialized health care system that she shouted "Heil Hitler!" at him.

He’s been crazzzay for years.

Consider that he writes for world daily news, an insane fascist blog.

In the presidential campaign last year and in a letter to Congress last week, Mr. Obama called for a new “public health insurance option,” which he said would compete with private insurers and keep them honest.

Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California said Wednesday that she supported that goal. “A bill will not come out of the House without a public option,” she said Wednesday on MSNBC.

But in comments submitted to the Senate Finance Committee, the American Medical Association said: “The A.M.A. does not believe that creating a public health insurance option for non-disabled individuals under age 65 is the best way to expand health insurance coverage and lower costs. The introduction of a new public plan threatens to restrict patient choice by driving out private insurers, which currently provide coverage for nearly 70 percent of Americans.”

If private insurers are pushed out of the market, the group said, “the corresponding surge in public plan participation would likely lead to an explosion of costs that would need to be absorbed by taxpayers.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/11/us/politics/11health.html

** Hey Now** You think doctors have "special interests" MORESO than politicians? You must be very young.
** Bash** Did you pull that out of some liberal blog? Nice try though.

First of all, Obama is not going to bring in universal healthcare, a fact that many people (including those who voted for him) seem not to realise. He wants to make insurance more available to all. He does not want to push private insurers out of the market as he does not want the government to provide insurance itself.

Second, of course universal health-cover sucks. That is why we in Western Europe have it. We think, hmm, our healthcare system sucks. I know, lets keep it. I guess that is the same with Japan and Canada as well.

FACT – the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet.

FACT – the US has higher death rates for kids aged under five than western European countries with universal health coverage.

That means that a dead American four year old would have had a better chance of life if they were born in Canada, France, Cuba, Germany, Japan etc, all of which have universal health coverage.

HERE IS CNN’S WOLF BLITZER TRAPPING OBAMA’S PUPPETMASTER IN HIS LIE ABOUT COMPETITION AND CHOICE THROUGH MEANS THAT DOESN’T INVOLVE CREATING A GOVERNMENT-RUN MONOPOLY THAT ENDS THE MIDDLE CLASS AUTONOMY OVER THEIR HEALTHCARE CHOICES:

http://www.cdobs.com/archive/featured/a-first-wolf-blitzer-ask-david-axelrod-some-tough-questions,64456

Why did OBAMA & DEMOCRATS obstruct GOP effort to expand competition of healthcare insurance across state lines?
Why did they block allowing people to buy their own insurance policies that can be taken with them from job to job or even while unemployed?

Did Democrats intentionally sabotage the private insurance industry to justify a radical government takeover of healthcare?

HERE ARE THE VOTES I AM REFERRING TO:
Bill: H R 976
Vote description: DeMint Amdt. No. 2577; To amend the Public Health Service Act to provide for cooperative governing of individual health insurance coverage offered in interstate commerce.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/1/votes/305/

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/votes/page4/

Bill: S CON RES 70
Vote description: DeMint Amdt. No. 4339; To provide for a deficit-neutral reserve fund for providing an above the line Federal income tax deduction for individuals purchasing health insurance outside the workplace.

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/110/senate/2/votes/82/

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/o000167/votes/page2/

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/10/video-axelrod-not-comprehending-what-competition-means/

careful now ……you might enrage the Dembots with facts and they will report you. LOL Good post!

The Rachel Maddow Show, MSNBC, 12-17-2009

single payer universal health care insurance public option sicko michael moore medicare president obama bush liberals baucus grassley senator snowe congress boener cantwell kennedy anthony weiner lieberman frc dobson family research council perkins prayer webcast howard dean

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July 21, 2009
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama remained on the offensive Tuesday on the pace and shape of legislation reinventing health care, against stiffening opposition from Republicans and growing wariness among rank-and-file congressional Democrats.

Following a recent pattern, harsh public exchanges ricocheted along Pennsylvania Avenue from the White House to the Capitol amid laborious work on the measure that Obama has insisted be put together before Congress leaves in August for its recess — a timetable a House Democratic leader indicated was slipping.
(and so on and so forth)

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We’ve lost so many jobs. Companies are going under left and right. The economy woni’t even begin to bounce back for at least another year or so. So. Govt passes this gigantic health care package. Surely such a move will create many many jobs.
and that is what we need,
isn’t
it?
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now now sallysillyroaring lion.
don’t get your panties in an uproar, that is if they make them that big.
I’m no liberal. I am 24 year old female college graduate working Masters. I do not embrace any political affiliation dingbat. And stop the use of all of that foul language dungmouth.
You didn’t even answer the question. You created your own.
but snce you did, I would offer that you and I and those that follow us will pay for this package,~~~ just as we are left with over a trillion dollars in debt ~~-and growing – for wars created by illegal invasions on countries not our own.
And discontinue exhibiting such phony consternation dungmouth.
We’re not tlaking about your 1500$ a month mortgage, or your 600$ second mortgage, or your 100$ electric bill, or your 500$ car payment. We are talking about health care, without which you have nothing to fall back on to pay those palry bills.
Now.
Just hush.
Have a beer or two
and take your tired behind to bed !!!!
I’m not looking for a job. I already have a degree and as I said I am working on my Masters. Thank God for my parents who planned early to fund my education, AND who made wise investments that allowed me to purchase my first home (a fixer upper), a vehicle (two years old) a bank account that always has a balance, and sense enough to know that people can agree to disagree as a matter of course.
Sometimes however, it is necessary to clarify where you stand ~~ less some dungmouth Assumes incorrectly.

From what I’ve listened to, its all about how much money it’ll cost. The government writes blank cheques for war, but when it comes to universal health care, then they are worried about money.
So sad.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/08/15-0

Never much of a fighter against abusive corporate power, Barack Obama is making it increasingly clear that right from his start as President, he wanted health insurance reform that received the approval of the giant drug and health insurance industries.

The whole secret process is seedy and demonstrates cruel disregard for the millions of American who, whether in dire need of medical services or not, voted in "change we can believe in."

Mr. Obama even tried to exclude any advocate of a single payer system-previously favored by Obama and still favored by a majority of the American people, doctors and nurses-from his roundtable meetings convened to receive the views of different constituencies.

Obama is about to make his biggest mistake to date by favoring the bipartisan deal his assistants are working out with Blue Dog Senator Max Baucus and his Republican counterparts on the Senate Finance Committee. This proposal has no public option, no consumer protections or restraints on the mayhem and skyrocketing charges of the so-called health care industry.

"Make me do it" was the advice of Franklin Delano Roosevelt to reformers when faced with legislation he desired but did not have the votes for in Congress. Mr. Obama is not exerting that plea for people power. Were he to do that, he would be encouraging daily public hearings in the Senate and the House on the bureaucratic waste, greed, overbilling, collusion, and fraud that many in the corporate world have inflicted with their costly, pay or die health care industry.

Nader is well known as a "consumers advocate". He stands for and with the people. Something Obama better learn, or those of us who put him in the Presidency will be the same ones to vote him out.

If he does not take a stand on this issue, make it clear, and get it passed. He will not be the Democratic nominee in 2012.

U.S. Senate Republican Whip Jon Kyl updates Hugh Hewitt and his listeners on the Democrats’ effort to ram their government-run health-care takeover through Congress, while hiding its true cost to the American taxpayer. Aired October 15, 2009.

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Let’s look at the MOST recent budget outcome – the Bush budget of 2008.

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/100xx/doc10014/March2009_HistoricalTables.pdf

So take a look at that.

Obama and congress have added more than a TRILLION in spending to the Bush budget of 2009 – leaving us with a MASSIVE deficit of $1.86 Trillion… Something the Bush budget would never have given us… (I had to point that out, several idiots point to Obama’s own deficit as Bush’s fault. I hope you people know Obama and congress CAN add spending to the current budget…)

***Let’s get to the point here…***

So first let’s start off with the fact that 45 million Americans out of 300 million are not insured by any company. That’s 15% of the population that’s goes without insurance. So let’s get this straight. We’re getting ready to pay for a $630 Billion dollar health care reform bill, just to cover 15% of the population. $630 Billion per year is more than what we spend per year on our Military/Defense Budget. Even if we cut Military/Defense spending by 50%, we won’t be able to afford this. This cost doesn’t even cover the fact, that like Medicare and Social Security, this cost will increase each year to cover a growing population. Like Medicare and Social Security, this will continue to grow in cost FOREVER unless the program ends. Not to mention the fact that we’re already in massive debt, 47% of our debt is in China’s hands, and that Obama is giving our nation a $1.86 TRILLION dollar DEFICIT (according to the CBO).

Is this really sustainable?

Source:
Just do some research at the damn CBO…

SUMMARY:

Cost PER YEAR of Public Option = $630 Billion (lowest estimate)

Obama Deficit = $1.86 TRILLION (Bush deficit of 2008 is $454.8 Billion.)

47% of our debt = Under China’s hands

Military/Defense Spending = $612.4 Billion PER YEAR.

HOW CAN WE AFFORD OBAMA CARE IF WE CAN’T EVEN AFFORD WHAT WE’RE DOING NOW?
PS: don’t give me benefits of the Public Plan — what’s the point if you can’t afford it?
FILE works fine… update your damn Acrobat reader…
POTATO…. No there is no flaw… We can’t afford it and the regulations that keep the companies within state borders are the VERY reason for little competition and high prices… NEXT…

I’m in total agreement, with one exception. The 45 million people has been broken down with the result that there are actually only about 10 million who are uninsured.

I can’t remember the exact percentages, but when you take away the number of people who can afford insurance, but choose not to get it, the numbers drop dramatically.

Then there are those who are qualified for medicare but for whatever reasons have not filled out the forms.

Then you get to subtract the 12-20 million who are illegal immigrants.

Leaves you with about 10 million, and it is definitely not worth wrecking our health system and increasing our national debt to such astronomical amounts.